I think that it’s unfortunate when people are wiped out by a vast amount of racial integration. Muhammad Ali said exactly the same thing. I think that either nature or God made people separate, unique and wonderful, all of them, then it’s a shame if we’re all simply obliterated into one indistinguishable mass all over the world. It’s a pity. Having said which, it’s not for any state to determine who falls in love with who.
So do you think that the white British population is under attack from immigration and mixed-race relationships?
I think that the identity of all the peoples of Europe is under threat from mass immigration, integration, and mixed-race relationships, which aren’t in fact happening just because it’s a natural thing, but because they’re constantly promoted by every element of the mass media as a good thing. It’s a deliberate policy, it’s very very clear. If you go back to Coudenhove-Kalergi, the man who founded the European Union, he was openly saying in 1926 that the idea [was to] obliterate the nations of Europe in constitutional terms but also the peoples who made them. Through mass immigration and mass assimilation. Socially engineered assimilation, that’s what’s happening. We’re under attack. Not by immigrants, but by an elite who want to use immigrations to obliterate the nations of Europe.
I’m pretty sure it was British government policy, particularly in the post-war period, to actually bring over people from the Commonwealth for labour reasons. Don’t you think it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest that these people who sometimes have been asked, and sometimes have been ruled by Britain . . . if they come over to get their piece of the pie, why is that unfair?
It’s wrong because of the effect it has on Britain. I’m not blaming the immigrants. You’re quite right, if the government support them, if senior civil servants have encouraged people. It’s the people who control the mass media, the big corporations, big business that wants cheap labour, to undermine the power of organised unionised labour. They’re the people to blame, not the immigrants.
Why do you pinpoint mass media when a lot of our media in Britain – I mean it’s owned by a few people, you’re right there – but we have a lot of tabloid media that is quite explicitly anti-immigration.
We do indeed. It’s explicitly anti-immigration. But it generally happily goes along with the genocidal implications of mass immigration. So it’s certainly not a nationalist media. And in terms of the media that really influences how people think and what they do, there is no comparison between print media, and what people see. It’s the power of the Hollywood films, it’s the power of the television news, particularly the power of the soap operas. These are the things which are particularly effective at changing how people view the world and what they do. A newspaper, however it reports the news, is in print. It doesn’t have anything like the power of the broadcast media. It’s the fact that the broadcast media, run by a tiny handful of people and directed by a very small interest group that all want the same thing, they’re the ones who really have the effect. Forget the Daily Mail, it’s the soap operas that decide how people work in their heads.
When you say they all want the same thing, what is it that you think they want? Because I work in the media, and it’s very white – British journalism is something like 96 per cent white. These newsrooms and places are not particularly multicultural.
No, no, no, they’re not, but they’re part of the hypocrisy of the liberal elite. They want the ordinary working class to enjoy the tremendous diversity and benefits of mass immigration that goes with it. But they don’t want it for themselves, do they? They don’t want it for their kids. The Rupert Murdochs of this world want power and they want wealth, and they don’t want anyone to challenge it. The whole corporate, the 1 per cent around the world, they are well aware they are looting our public services, the resources. It used to be that colonialism and the looting was done by the West in the Third World. The looting is now of the corporations of all of us, and they’re well aware that sooner or later, any sovereign, any European people that still has its identity intact, they can say we’ve had enough of the looting, we’re taking it all back. So the only way to make sure the looting is permanent is to get rid of the peoples who otherwise would say we’re having a revolution.
Do you think that by Britain accommodating difference, people from different races and cultures, that that is akin to erasing white Britishness?
In small numbers, no. But that is the aim and it’s the inevitable result of large numbers, yes.
My parents are from a [former] Commonwealth country, and I’ve got a British passport. Born and raised here. When you say these things, you may pinpoint the elite as spreading an agenda and what not, but it does tend to make someone like me feel quite unwelcome. There’s many, many second-generation immigrants who feel very British.
You’re quite young, I would recommend that you get the hell out of this country and you go and have kids somewhere decent, probably somewhere connected with your own heritage, because Britain is, to be crude, utterly fucked.
Nick Griffin is an extreme example, but he voices the same fears that are evident in the low-level grumblings and resentment of some British people who are resistant to change. They spend their time yearning for a nostalgic Britain that never was.
Fear of a black planet maintains that people of colour are unfairly vying for precious, rationed and scarce resources, and that having more people of colour in these positions of power might instigate a drastic tipping of the scales. To some, every time a new curry house opens, every polski sklep that opens, and every time Sainsbury’s expands its ethnic food aisle, it’s a symbol that white Brits are sleepwalking into new minority status. Some start boycotting halal meat on cruelty grounds, as though there are varying degrees of acceptable animal death they’ll withstand for the benefit of eating their burgers. Fear of a black planet is a fear of loss.
Another incarnation of the fear reveals a deep-seated discomfort with anti-racist talk and protest. Couched in the pernicious frame of ‘freedom of speech’, it materialises when a person with anti-racist values voices their disgust at something racist. They will then be told that their sheer objection to it actually inhibits freedom of speech.